{"id":33456,"date":"2019-05-24T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-05-24T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/?p=33456"},"modified":"2022-05-14T11:50:16","modified_gmt":"2022-05-14T15:50:16","slug":"anti-baptism-scriptures-part-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/anti-baptism-scriptures-part-5\/","title":{"rendered":"019 &#8211; Trusting in Christ Alone is What Saves You."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/images\/PostImages\/Romans4-5Logo.png\" alt=\"Trusting Christ is only a credit. Ownership comes with obedience.\" width=\"338\" height=\"231\"\/><figcaption>Trusting God brings a credit of righteousness.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, welcome. If you are just joining us, let me explain where we are in our quest. We are in the middle of responding to the arguments made in an article from <a href=\"http:\/\/gotquestions.org\">gotquestions.org<\/a> titled, \u201cDoes Acts 2:38 Teach that Baptism is Necessary for salvation?\u201d At the end of that article, the author offers nine scriptures as proof texts for his conclusion that baptism is not necessary. These scriptures are commonly used in this argument and we have been reviewing each one. Romans 4:5 is the fifth scripture in this list. Here it is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-trusting-christ-for-salvation\">Trusting Christ for Salvation<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Romans 4:5<br>However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My Evangelical friends explain this scripture as follows: \u201cIt is the man who trusts God who is made righteous, not the man who works. Do you see that? Works are of no value. The thing that saves you is trusting God.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are a couple of problems here. The Evangelical claims, we can not be saved by works and baptism is a work. No argument on the first part of that statement. We can not be saved by works. This is what this scripture is explaining to the Romans. But, this scripture does not call baptism a work. This scripture does not mention baptism. This scripture is not even remotely about baptism. In order to use this scripture as an anti-baptism scripture, I must buy in to the error that baptism <em>is<\/em> a work. We have covered this issue elsewhere but in my desire to keep each of these lessons modular and self contained let me review the error and then point you to the original lessons which deal in depth with the issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Baptism is not a work. Baptism is a command of God. Why does any church baptize a new believer in water? Because it is a command of Christ, right? We conclude this from the Great Commission. It does not require a doctorate in Rocket Surgery to understand this but baptism can not be a command of Christ and a work of human merit at the same time. That is impossible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, the first issue, \u201cbaptism is a work,\u201d is not valid. Baptism is a command. I have no choice but to obey it. For a complete review of that topic please read or listen to my Podcast titled, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/baptism-is-a-work\/\">Who told you baptism is a work?<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-the-challenge-of-obedience\">The Challenge of Obedience<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Obedience to the Gospel must never be categorized as a work. And obedience to the Gospel is clearly necessary for salvation. Just listen to these challenging scriptures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>2 Thessalonians 1:8<br>He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>James 2:22<br>You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Hebrews 5:9<br>\u2026once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>1 John 2:3-6&nbsp;<br>We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, \u201cI know him,\u201d but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Romans 1:5<br>Through him and for his name\u2019s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-give-me-a-little-credit\">Give me a little credit!<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a second problem in using Romans 4:5 as an anti-baptism scripture. Let\u2019s read it again so it is fresh in our mind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Romans 4:5<br>However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What is the focus of this sentence? The man who does not work but trusts God. What is he compared to? The man who works. Does the man who works receive the same thing as the man who trusts God? No. There is a difference between these two people. Yes, that\u2019s the point of the scripture. One type of person receives a blessing the other type of person does not receive the blessing. What is the blessing? We might think it is \u201cjustification of the wicked,\u201d but not so fast. That is just a description of our majestic and mysterious God. \u201cGod, who justifies the wicked,\u201d is a descriptive phrase. What does this \u201cGod who justifies the wicked\u201d do for the man who trusts in him? He sees his faith and that faith is credited to him as righteousness. Awesome!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, this scripture teaches us, the man who trusts in God is made righteous by that God, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No, that\u2019s not what it says. It says that the man\u2019s faith is <em>credited<\/em> to him as righteousness. Here\u2019s the problem. Credit is not ownership. The man has not been made righteous just quite yet but he is in a really good position. He has a credit from God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This issue is huge. Why do we assume that the man has been declared righteous when that is not what the scripture says? If you want to dive deeper into this amazing issue, please refer to my podcast titled <a href=\"https:\/\/afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/a-credit-of-righteousness\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">\u201cA Credit of Righteousness<\/a>.\u201d It\u2019s a fascinating study. We are honestly not trying to split hairs here. Being issued a credit is simply not the same thing as ownership and possession. Please see read the article or<a href=\"https:\/\/afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=447-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> listen to the Podcast.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>God does not give righteousness to the man who trusts him, He gives a credit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, Romans 4:5 is not about baptism, it is about works of merit and probably more specifically about the system of works which sprung up from trying to obey the Old Testament Law. We must not use this scripture as an anti-baptism scripture because baptism is not a work, it is the only proper response to the Gospel if we have a Faith that Obeys!<\/p>\n\n\n\nEnjoy!\n<br>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-88\" src=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/DanasSigSM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"46\">\n<br>\nDana Haynes\n<br>\n<div id=\"JoinTheDiscussion\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/forums\/forum\/the-podcast\/\"><i class=\"fas fa-comments\"><\/i>\nJoin the discussion here.<\/a><\/div>\n<br>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">Listen Now &#8211; Podcast 017 &#8211; Anti Baptism Scriptures &#8211; Part 3<\/div>\n<br>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2322\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-33456-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/afaiththatobeys\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/mp3s\/019-AntiBaptismScripturesPart5.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/afaiththatobeys\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/mp3s\/019-AntiBaptismScripturesPart5.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/afaiththatobeys\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/mp3s\/019-AntiBaptismScripturesPart5.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well, welcome. 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