{"id":33744,"date":"2019-10-11T06:00:18","date_gmt":"2019-10-11T10:00:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/?p=33744"},"modified":"2022-05-14T19:51:55","modified_gmt":"2022-05-14T23:51:55","slug":"039-romans-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/039-romans-6\/","title":{"rendered":"039 &#8211; Romans 6 &#8211; We Are Baptized Into Christ."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/images\/PostImages\/Logo-DeathBurialResurrection.jpg\" alt=\"Romans 6 - Death, Burial and Resurrection with Christ\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Here is the first scripture we use to argue that water baptism is necessary for salvation. It\u2019s Romans 6:1-11. This is a long passage holding wonderful treasures, the first of which harkens back to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/037-methods-of-baptism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"our lesson about the correct method of baptism (opens in a new tab)\">our lesson about the correct method of baptism<\/a>. Let\u2019s listen to it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Romans 6:1-11<br> \u201cWhat shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?Or don\u2019t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection. For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin\u2013because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-romans-6-verse-by-verse\">Romans 6 &#8211; Verse by Verse<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Wow. What a rich passage of scripture. Let\u2019s dissect this verse by verse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Verse 1-2<br> \u201cWhat shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first part of this verse addresses a misunderstanding in the early church where some people thought that if they sinned more, God\u2019s grace was revealed even more.  Paul says, in effect, \u201cThat dog don\u2019t hunt so stop thinking that way.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But notice something. Paul is addressing people who are already saved. How do we know this? Because all of it is in the past tense. He identifies them as people who have (past tense) \u201cdied to sin.\u201d If someone has \u201cdied to sin\u201d that means that their sins have been forgiven and they are no longer living a life of sin. These are people who have died and been raised again to their new life in Christ. They have been Born Again. Let\u2019s dig a little deeper and ask the critical questions: \u201cWhen did this happen and where did it happen.\u201d Paul answers these questions in verse three.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cOr don\u2019t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-baptized-into-his-death\">Baptized into His Death<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>In this sentence, Paul tells us this \u201cdeath to sin\u201d occurred when these people were baptized into Christ. He tells us they were \u201cbaptized into his death.\u201d Ah\u2026 two critical truths! First, we get \u201cinto\u201d Christ through something called \u201cbaptism.&#8221; Second, we learn this \u201cbaptism\u201d places us \u201cinto Christ\u2019s death.\u201d These are important truths to understand. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There is no other way, in all of scripture to get \u201cinto\u201d Christ or \u201cinto his death.\u201d And to be clear\u2026 these are not symbolic things. These are, what I like to call, \u201creality things;\u201d things which are really happening. At the time of baptism, we are put into Christ and into his death by the Holy Spirit. But the process does not stop there. We are not left dead and buried, just as Christ was not left dead and buried.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Verse 4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cWe were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-buried-with-him\">Buried with Him<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a lot here! This verse begins with the word, \u201ctherefore.\u201d In my early years as a disciple, I was taught that whenever you see the word \u201ctherefore\u201d in a scripture, you should always back up a few verses and find out what it is there for!  If we do that, we must read verse four in light of verses 1-3. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>These people had died with Christ in baptism, been baptized into his death and baptized into Christ himself. \u201cTherefore\u2026\u201d they were buried with Christ, how? Through baptism. So, by this thing Paul calls \u201cbaptism,&#8221; a person is buried with Christ. But, into what? Into death. Why? For what purpose? In order that \u201cjust as Christ was raised from the dead\u2026\u201d they too could be raised to a new life as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, let\u2019s flip things on their heads and ask some inverse questions. What happens if I am not baptized into Christ? If I am not baptized, can I get \u201cinto his death?\u201d If I am not buried with him through baptism, will I be raised with him? If I am not raised with him in baptism can I be ushered into a new life just like Christ was ushered into new life? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the surface, it might seem like the answer to these questions is, \u201cNo!\u201d But, I don\u2019t think that would be dealing honestly with the scripture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-don-t-go-gettin-all-dogmatic\">Don&#8217;t go gettin&#8217; all dogmatic!<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The honest answer to these questions is not \u201cNo!\u201d The honest answer is, \u201cI don\u2019t know.\u201d That\u2019s the truth. Let me explain. There is a temptation to say, \u201cIf I am NOT baptized I can NOT be in Christ,\u201d but the scriptures do not make that negative claim, do they? They simply state the positive. That\u2019s the truth. I think this is one way a pro-baptism proponent shoots himself in the foot. All to often a pro-baptism proponent can be pretty dogmatic about this erroneous position. The scripture does not say, \u201cIf you are NOT baptized you will not be with Christ.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, the initial statement is so clear and so direct it would not make sense to consider any other course of action if I wanted to be raised with Christ. So, while the honest answer to the inverse question is not \u201cNo,\u201d Rejecting the instruction leaves a vast chasm of doubt and insecurity, especially when we consider what comes next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Romans 6:5<br> \u201cIf we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is a conditional and it is a huge conditional. The claim begins with \u201cif.\u201d \u201cIf we have been united with him like this in his death.\u201d How are we \u201cunited with him like this in his death?\u201d By participating in baptism. Is this a metaphor for something? No. This is what happens in baptism. We are \u201cunited with him in his death!\u201d What happens next? \u201cWe, will certainty be united with him in his resurrection.\u201d That\u2019s awesome!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What happens if I am NOT united with him in his death? Do I have any assurance that I will be united with him in his resurrection? No, no promises. The only confidence I can have is \u201cif\u201d I am united with him in his death. Once again, don\u2019t build a false assumption in the absence of the negative, the truth of the positive stands powerfully alone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I love these conditionals because they kind-of box us in. They don\u2019t leave much wiggle room. Things get tightened down\u2026 especially when we ask that inverse question begged by the \u201cif\u201d statement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Lets\u2019 move on to verse 6 and 7.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cFor we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin\u2013because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Let\u2019s start at the bottom and work our way up. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-how-not-to-sin\">How not to sin.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I have a sure-fire way to help us in our quest to never commit another sin. Wouldn\u2019t that be great? Wouldn\u2019t it be awesome if we never sinned again? Here\u2019s all we need to do and I guarantee it will work, 100% of the time\u2026. All we need to do is die! This is what this scripture tells us. In baptism, we die and we are therefore free from sin! The Bible uses this imagery a number of times describing Christians as people who have died to their old life. It\u2019s quite a picture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, in verse 6 and 7 we learn that baptism is where we die to sin. If we have not died, are we free from sin? It does not say that, but the safe bet would be, \u201cNo.\u201d If we have not died, sin is still our master! How did we die? Our old self was \u201ccrucified with him.&#8221; How is that possible, we were not at the cross? \u201cOur old self was crucified,\u201d in baptism. That\u2019s the subject of these passages. Why are we crucified with Christ? \u201cSo that the body of sin might be done away with.\u201d What does that mean? It means we are done with sin. It means our sins were wiped away. They are no longer a part of us.  We will no longer be slaves to sin because we are dead.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can you think of any other place in all of scripture where we are taught that sins are rendered powerless by some other means or at some other time in the conversion process outside of baptism? I can\u2019t.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Romans 6:8<br> \u201cNow if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once again, we see that conditional. The word \u201cif\u201d is used to establish a clear fork in the road. If I die with Christ\u2026 where does that happen? In baptism. If I died with Christ I believe I will live with him. What if I do not die with Christ? Do I have any confidence at all that I will live with him? No, I am on shaky ground.  I am not promised anything. Do I honestly want to be on that road? Why not just obey the command and accept the guarantee?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Next we find a bit of a set-up for what Paul is about to say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Romans 6:9-10<br> \u201cFor we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This speaks about Christ\u2019s resurrection. He is raised from the dead. Death only gets to do its work once. After that, death can not have control over Christ. Christ died to sin one time and for all people. The resurrected life he lives, he lives to God. Now that Paul has that teed up, let\u2019s see what he does with it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Verse 11<br> In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the same way as what? In the same way as Christ! Do what? Count yourself dead to sin and alive to God, in Christ. Oh! So, now we are \u201cin Christ.\u201d When did that happen? It had to have happened sometime between death and resurrection! Where does that happen for a believer? In baptism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-a-quick-plunge-into-a-rabbit-hole\">A Quick Plunge into a Rabbit Hole<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Let\u2019s take a quick detour just for fun\u2026.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Romans 6 we learn that we are crucified with Christ and we die! It does not say this is symbolic or a metaphor for anything.  It also said, \u201cwe were baptized into death!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is a great mystery and something which is probably worthy of a lot deeper study. Do people actually die in baptism? Whatever this thing called \u201cdeath\u201d actually is, is that what happens to us in baptism? Do we actually experience this thing called \u201cdeath\u201d so that we will never experience it again? Death no longer has mastery over someone who has died, right? It only gets to do it\u2019s job one time. Yeah this is a bit of a rabbit hole but some time we should study this one out. Very interesting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Romans 6 offers an amazing look at the complete Born Again experience. When we submit ourselves to bible baptism, we are participating in the death, the burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Nowhere in all of scripture do we find such a clear explanation of what happens in baptism. When we allow ourselves to be baptized, we die, we are buried and we are resurrected with Christ.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-romans-6-is-not-about-water-baptism\">Romans 6 is not about water baptism!<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Now, I know the critics are chomping at the bit. They claim, \u201cRomans 6 is not about water baptism.\u201d They claim, with great confidence, this is a spiritual baptism. There are two problems with this conclusion. The first problem is the issue posed by Ephesians 4:5, there is only one baptism. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In previous studies we discovered there is indeed only one baptism but two things are happening. Let me refer you to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/multiple-baptisms\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"A Faith that Obeys Podcast \u201c029 - Multiple Baptisms, (opens in a new tab)\">A Faith that Obeys Podcast \u201c029 &#8211; Multiple Baptisms,<\/a>\u201d for a complete study of that issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second, when I ask my evangelical friend if their church baptizes by complete immersion and they say, \u201cYes.\u201d My next question is, \u201cWhat scripture would you use to prove that water baptism should be done by immersion and not a sprinkling or pouring?\u201d They quickly point to Romans 6. Hopefully you see the problem. We can\u2019t claim Romans 6 is exclusively a spiritual baptism then use Romans 6 and claim it is a water baptism too. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This scripture is pretty much to go-to scripture for anyone who wants to explain why their church practices full immersion baptisms instead of sprinkling or pouring. The reason it serves this function so nicely is because it graphically depicts baptism as a death, burial and resurrection as a person is lowered into water, held there briefly, then raised out of the water.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When we accept Paul\u2019s Ephesians assertion, \u201cthere is only one baptism\u201d and we understand that two things are happening in that one baptism, we understand how Romans 6 can be a baptism in water and a spiritual baptism at the same time. It\u2019s very easy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-baptism-a-participation-in-the-death-burial-and-resurrection-of-christ\">Baptism &#8211; A Participation in the Death, Burial and Resurrection of Christ!<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>In the process of water baptism, a person is lowered into water, completely immersed or buried and raised again out of the water. In this process, we see something very symbolic happen. We see a death, a burial and a resurrection. While water baptism contains amazing symbolism, baptism itself is not a symbol of anything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Baptism is, as I\u2019ve stated, a participation in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Baptism is an act of direct obedience to the Great Commission and the Gospel of Christ. Baptism is where and when a sinner is born again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Romans 6 is clearly about baptism, the one baptism which is done in water by the Holy Spirit which places a person into the Kingdom of God by allowing them to be crucified with Christ, buried and resurrected. Baptism is how we execute and obey the Great Commission. Baptism is how we obey the Gospel. Our baptism is a response which only comes from A Faith that Obeys.<\/p>\n\n\n\nEnjoy!\n<br>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-88\" src=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/DanasSigSM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"46\">\n<br>\nDana Haynes\n<br>\n<div id=\"JoinTheDiscussion\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/forums\/forum\/the-podcast\/\"><i class=\"fas fa-comments\"><\/i>\nJoin the discussion here.<\/a><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">Listen Now &#8211; Podcast 039 &#8211; Romans 6<\/div>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1160\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-33744-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/afaiththatobeys\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/mp3s\/039-Romans6.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/afaiththatobeys\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/mp3s\/039-Romans6.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/afaiththatobeys\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/mp3s\/039-Romans6.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here is the first scripture we use to argue that water baptism is necessary for salvation. It\u2019s Romans 6:1-11. This is a long passage holding wonderful treasures, the first of which harkens back to our lesson about the correct method of baptism. Let\u2019s listen to it. Romans 6:1-11 \u201cWhat shall we say, then? Shall we &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/039-romans-6\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;039 &#8211; Romans 6 &#8211; We Are Baptized Into Christ.&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[13,17],"tags":[106,104,103],"class_list":["post-33744","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-doctrine","category-podcast","tag-death-burial-resurrection","tag-romans-6","tag-water-baptism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.0 (Yoast SEO v27.0) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>039 - Romans 6 - We Are Baptized Into Christ. - A Faith that Obeys Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.afaiththatobeys.org\/blog\/039-romans-6\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"039 - Romans 6 - We Are Baptized Into Christ.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Here is the first scripture we use to argue that water baptism is necessary for salvation. 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